Tuesday, September 7, 2021

Japanese VS America - SOTO Windmaster Vs MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe


In this episode of TOGR, Luke is comparing what many believe to be the Best of the Best when it comes to backpacking stoves.

In one corner, we have the SOTO Windmaster and in the other, we have the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe.

Which stove is lighter, which one is faster and which features a better design?

Find out in this head to head battle.

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——— Soto Windmaster ————


Price : $65

Weight with 4flex supports : 3.1oz 

BTUS : 11000
Includes Ignitor -

Burn Time : Approx 1.5 hours with an 250g gas canister

Dimensions :4” Tall, 5.7” wide

Windscreen : 
Designed for wind resistance; concave burner head sits close to your pot or cup.

Regulator : Pressure regulator maintains stove's fast boil times even in cold weather & with low fuel.  - While I haven’t tested this stove in conditions below 40F so far, I have used it with a canister that is low on fuel and it performs better than the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe.  

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——— MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe ————


Price : $70

Weight : 2.9oz

BTUS : 10,400
Includes Ignitor -

Burn Time : Burn time (MSR IsoPro) per 227-g - 60 minutes

Dimensions : 3.5” tall - 3.75” wide

Windscreen : Improves wind resistance and combines with simmer control for excellent cooking versatility; wind-blocking burner lip.

Regulator : Pressure regulator maintains stove's fast boil times even in cold weather & with low fuel. Susie and I have used this stove around the country in a wide variety of conditions; hot, freezing cold, high elevation, low elevation and so on; the regulator works well but in all situations with the exception of low fuel canisters - we’ve had rather poor performance with a canister that is getting close to being empty.

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Results : 

Boil Time of 500ml of Water : Stated in the Video

Thoughts on Size : While the Soto is slightly larger and heavier I feel that the weight and size is justified in that it offers a more stable platform to cook/heat.

Ignitor Thoughts : While no Ignitor is perfect I have had more issues with the MSR Ignitor than the Soto, in fact, I have been in situations where I simply could not get the MSR to ignite.  I’ve never had the Soto not fire up.

Cook : Both stoves in general are awesome for boiling water for meals and for cooking.  You can easily adjust both, you can simmer, you can do what you want.

Adjuster : I have never liked the MSR adjuster; it is very loose and when I first received this stove after buying it, I thought that it may be broken as it was so loose.  A friend of mine has the stove too and his is just as loose.  The Soto adjuster in my opinion is better as there is a bit more resistance to it while not being too stiff.

Size and Weight : There is virtually no difference with these two stoves - the Soto offers wider pot supports which makes for a slightly more stable cooking experience if you are using large pots/pans.

Overall Run Times : While I haven’t thoroughly tested this aspect, overall run times are going to be within the same ballpark based on the BTU rating of each stove and the information which both companies have stated. For 99% of users, they won’t notice a difference in burn times.  For those who analyze every single detail, they might.

Which Stove Would I Choose? 
I like both stoves but after spending a substantial amount of time with each, I like the Soto better. Again i haven’t tested this stove in cold conditions so I will be updating my review and may even do a cold weather vs episode. 

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